Touchy subject: do you know of any good lotions/creams without collagen or elastin added?

Palmer%26#039;s has both, along with other ingredients (coco, etc.) and I don%26#039;t feel comfortable using those ingredients since I%26#039;ve *heard* (I don%26#039;t know if it%26#039;s true or not) that ingredients like that come from humans only.





What do you know about this? Sorry if it%26#039;s a touchy subject.|||Actually, you are completely right about skin products that can and DO contain human collagen.





This is not a touchy subject; thing is, it%26#039;s not widely known and it really should be.





The fact is, some countries produce expensive and very popular creams--especially for the face--that contain human collagen, but what you might not know is that this tissue actually comes from aborted children or from their placentas and/or from executed inmates. Yes, you read that right.





In the same vein, I wonder if you are aware that all the common vaccines are derived from the cells of aborted children from the second trimester onward? http://www.cogforlife.org/





I have asked questions on my own about face creams, and the ones to avoid are those that are internationally made. What I found out is that the United States (and, I assume, Canada) is NOT allowed to produce creams containing human collagen. HOWEVER, the countries that do produce these creams--especially China and Japan--do sell them over here, so you have to be careful about the source of your products.





If you look on the back and there is the word %26quot;collagen%26quot; in the ingredients, you need to contact that company before buying the product and ask them if it is human or animal collagen. If it is human, it is NEVER derived in a moral way and you need to avoid that product and tell them why you are avoiding it.





I have had to contact companies before and I know of one Japanese company in particular--called DHC--that does sell products made with human collagen.





So, find out if it is human or animal collagen. If is human, it has been derived from a murdered person, either born or unborn, and the thought of using that just makes me sick to my stomach. By the way, they use the tissue of aborted children or their placentas because it is known to be very effective in face creams, but that is just beyond disgusting. No thanks. I%26#039;d rather have the wrinkles.





GOOD question. People will likely think you%26#039;re strange for asking it because, until today, they were unaware of it.|||Collagen and elastin are actually taken from either cows or bird sources. Its very readily available in their bones, and thats where its derived from when it comes to making lotions/cosmetics.





Depending on your views of those things, you still may not feel comfortable using those creams. An alternative would be to use something that is Vitamin E based, or, a more %26quot;pure%26quot; form of cocoa butter/shea butter. Vitamin E is best used in its oil form. A cheap source is in the capsules you can find in the pharmacy. I would suggest pricking the capsule with a pin, to release the oil. Its alot cheaper than what you would find in the cosmetic section, and the concentration is usually higher/better. Its completely safe to use during pregnancy. I would also suggest using it after a shower, because it allows the oil to get deeper into the skin with the pores being open.





I hope this helps give you some insight :)|||touchy subject? i dont get it...